George Wright's Blog comments

"FreeNX package" by Darius

Thu, 21 Aug 2008 16:54:42 +0100

Superb work, i tried to compile it for one week on debian etch. I had a problem that nxagent didn’t compile, everything else did. So thank you very much. As Alex already said it would be nice if you could manage it to post a little howto for compilation or for my part what dev-packages i forgot and are needed. Thanks.

"Unacceptable behaviour" by anonymous

Thu, 14 Aug 2008 11:55:22 +0100

blauzahl, amusing to see how you find that disrespectful, yet how often you and the rest of kde girls do rather inappropriate comments on kde boys.

Or do you actually believe that being on a blog or a chat (like irc), gives you freedom to say anythign you’d not dare doing in front of that person?

Life is hard.

"LinuxWorld Conference & Expo 2008" by zeberdee

Fri, 08 Aug 2008 01:17:59 +0100

Hi,

When is the uk LinuxWorld Conference & Expo being held? And can anyone point me in the direction of a website that gives details?

Thanks

"Unacceptable behaviour" by Plato

Tue, 29 Jul 2008 22:15:41 +0100

@Ethelred: by raising the issue of “where do we draw the line” I was attempting to demonstrate to pvanhoof, Tristan et al. that there *is* a line to be drawn somewhere. They seemed to be working from the principle that anything goes on the internet.

I’m not claiming I know the answer, but just demonstrating that “we should be entirely free to do exactly what we want” isn’t a justified position.

"Unacceptable behaviour" by Ethelred

Mon, 28 Jul 2008 00:16:26 +0100

@Plato: You would be offended by a picture of a bloody, murdered baby on Planet Fedora, and you would want it to be removed if it appeared.* So where do we draw the “offensiveness” line and who decides?

I would turn this around and ask you Plato where do you suggest we should draw the line ?

It’s impossible to not offend anyone so how can any line be drawn anywhere ? This isn’t a “one size fits all” scenario. By allowing any one person to “draw the line” you turn that person into the sole arbiter of what the whole spectrum of opinions finds acceptable.

The world simply isn’t like that. If you find the original posting offensive to you, filter the feed or develop a thick skin. Don’t try to turn yourself into the defender of decency for the entire community.

And George, if I find your opinions offensive to me, should you similarly apologise and withdraw your blog post ? If not, why not ?

"N800 with Google Maps!" by ltk

Sun, 27 Jul 2008 01:22:16 +0100

any idea why Google maps maps load as a grey box ?

"Unacceptable behaviour" by Alban

Sat, 26 Jul 2008 15:42:10 +0100

@Plato : for your example of an hypothetical photo of a murdered child, assuming it would be gratuitous and not displayed as an illustration of a point (say, horrors of wars), I would most likely consider the poster as a jerk, and use my (limited) personal power to avoid further contact with the said individual, and I would probably set a filter in my agregator to avoid his/her posts.

And that’s it. @bochecha :

I never said we (individually) have to accept anything from anyone. But it’s our personal responsibility to filter by ourselves, with our consciences, and it’s certainly not a job for a Great Moderator that would arbitrarily decide for everybody what’s right or wrong.

Usenet works pretty well since ages on this principles. Each user can set his own bozo-list and fill it with whomever he decides not worthy of his time, and that’s that. It’s easy, it’s tested, it works.

So let’s get cracking on implementing client-side RSS filtering, and please, puh-leaase, keep it client-side, let people decide what’s good and what’s bad for themselves, not for the others.

"Unacceptable behaviour" by Plato

Fri, 25 Jul 2008 16:26:09 +0100

And by the way, “spoilt north american child” is a rather hilarious insult… You don’t know me, don’t try to guess who I am. :)

Indeed. They’re making up imaginary enemies.

"Unacceptable behaviour" by bochecha

Fri, 25 Jul 2008 16:22:35 +0100

@Tristan:

“We can not manage to not offend anyone, its just not gonna happen.” I know, and that’s precisely why I said I doubted we could fix this issue. But as long as we don’t fix it, we will have this kind of flames, some people will be unhappy, we will accuse each others of repulsing the women away from free software,…

“If you are offended by someone and gnome doesnt do anything about it, you probably wont blame gnome, that would be rediculous, its a community, not the person who offended you.” You can’t blame Gnome, that’s right, but don’t you have the right to not feel at ease in a community that let’s others offend you ?

“Now Im sorry but when people feel they need to be “Stood up for” by others when handling conflicts in a community, this denotes a serious problem in thier own upbringing” Did I say someone needs to be stood up for ? Nope. But when you are offended, having someone else saying “what you did is not right” (excuse me if that is not what “stand up for” means, I’m not a native english speaker) changes a lot. It makes you feel you’re not alone, which makes you feel that you are not the alien, being offended by something everyone else finds normal.

About your critics of the “sue-everyone-for-anything-society”, I have to say I totally agree with you. And this is definitely not something that should be desired for an internet community (or any other one). Did I say the contrary anywhere ?

And by the way, “spoilt north american child” is a rather hilarious insult… You don’t know me, don’t try to guess who I am. :)

"Unacceptable behaviour" by Plato

Fri, 25 Jul 2008 16:21:04 +0100

Your protestations about nudity make it clear that you don’t understand anything about my personal opinions on the matter. And with good reason: I haven’t mentioned them; they’re irrelevant to the matter at hand, as George initially mentioned.

The point is that quite a few people were offended by something, and expressed that, and quite a few other people, like you pvanhoof, jumped down their throats. That’s just not very nice.